ZeroRank
With Kelvin Cobanaj, ZeroRank
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About the show:
Automation For Agencies is the podcast where AppSumo founders meet agency owners. Host Drew Rattray scores every tool against the Agency Viability Score (AVS) rubric — white-label depth, multi-client management, reseller viability, integration flexibility, and roadmap confidence — so agency listeners know what's actually worth buying. Learn · Launch · Scale.
Guest bio:
Kelvin Cobanaj is the founder of ZeroRank, which tracks how brands appear in ChatGPT, Google AI Overviews, Perplexity and other AI answer engines. He had the idea three years ago, when most people still said nobody would leave Google, and runs ZeroRank with co-founder Besmir and a team of 10, bootstrapped by choice. During the three-month AppSumo run he personally took over 200 demo calls and handled 1,300 support tickets. Find him at https://zerorank.ai.
Key quotes:
"We have people literally building tools using ZeroRank as their backend because we know we are very flexible about that." -Kelvin Cobanaj
Timestamps:
00:00 Can you bill clients for AI visibility?
00:59 What ZeroRank tracks across AI engines
01:50 Why AI search intent beats keyword volume
05:19 100 workspaces on the top AppSumo plan
07:34 AppSumo widened the market to solo founders
08:26 APIs, MCPs and building on ZeroRank
09:18 Scoped client logins and unlimited seats
09:49 Pitch workspaces that find and email prospects
11:09 Copilot and Agent Brain walkthrough
17:55 Copilot drafts outreach to cited sites
20:05 ZeroRank's own results: 300K impressions
24:09 Roadmap: mobile app, local AI search, ad spy
29:19 Bootstrapped by choice, cash-backed, no VC
34:04 Coming back to AppSumo, and a listener code
Resources:
Free AIWritebook Playbook PDF: https://automationforagencies.com/playbooks/aiwritebook
FREE Shelf Report for Appsumo Customers
Affiliate disclosure:
Automation For Agencies may earn a commission if you buy Blip AI through our AppSumo link. Reviews are scored independently against the AVS rubric and are never adjusted based on commercial relationships.
